British
High Commissioner Ric Todd warns:
Nobody can assume the status-quo will continue
Status-quo
cannot continue: British High Commissioner Todd stated that given the way the
world is now, given where Cyprus is, given the neighbourhood specially to the
East, nobody can assume that the status quo will continue.
Risk of solution
or risk of non-solution: Todd stated that Cypriots need to answer the question
“Do you want to take the risk of a settlement, or take the risk of not having a
settlement?” rather than “Do you want the status-quo to continue or do you want
to take the risk of settlement?”
Lack of
trust underlies disagreements: British High Commissioner Todd stated that there
is a lack of trust between Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot sides and said
that this lack of trust underlies many of the disagreements.
Esra Aygın
British
High Commissioner Ric Todd stated that, taking into consideration the nature of
the world, where Cyprus is, and the neighbourhood especially to the East, nobody
can assume that the status quo will continue.
“I think
the choice facing Cypriots is not ‘do you want the status-quo to continue’ or
‘do you want to take the risk of settlement?’ It’s more ‘do you want to take
the risk of a settlement or take the risk of not having a settlement?’ I think
it’s important to try and put the issue in those terms,” said Todd.
The British
High Commissioner stated that they support UN Secretary General’s efforts to
resume the negotiations and added that they encourage both sides to return to
structured negotiations.
Todd
underlined that there is lack of trust between the Turkish Cypriot and Greek
Cypriot sides and said that this lack of trust underlies most of the
disagreements over the issues on the table.
The UNSG’s Special Advisor on Cyprus, Espen
Barth Eide, is working very hard on having the negotiations between the Turkish
Cypriot and Greek Cypriot sides resumed. And you are supporting these efforts.
What is exactly being done to bring the sides back on the table?
Todd: Over the new-year period, Mr. Eide worked very
hard with the two sides to try to bring about a situation, after which the
negotiations could resume in a positive spirit. He always says, and we always
say that it’s not just about resuming negotiations. It’s about resuming
negotiations in a positive spirit. Mr. Eide believes that his efforts came
close to success, but they didn’t succeed. He feels that both sides share some
responsibility for the fact that the negotiations were not resumed and he will
continue his efforts to bring about a resumption of negotiations. Of course we
will do too. We think that Mr. Eide is doing a very good job and we do support
him as all the Security Council. In that sense, there is a very strong
international support for finding a settlement to the Cyprus problem
May I ask you what these efforts are?
Todd: There is a very interesting dynamic to the
settlement negotiations in the sense that, clearly, the negotiations are
important to all Cypriots, who are very interested in what is happening in the
background. On the other hand, I think Mr. Eide, as an experienced mediator,
would also say that there is need to build confidence among negotiators and
therefore there is need for some element of assurance of confidentiality. That
is not contrary to openness transparency and honesty. In the past, when contents
of negotiations or discussions would be leaked prematurely accidentally or
deliberately, that hasn’t always been constructive. So I think it will be right
for us to recognize that Mr. Eide can’t always say exactly what he is trying to
do.
Despite the fact that a new NAVTEX has been
issued, the Turkish side is keeping Barbaros off the shore of Famagusta as a
show of good will. On the other hand, Anastasiades has accepted to put the
hydrocarbon issue on the table. However, despite these compromises the stalemate
could not be overcome. What needs to be done to resume negotiations?
Todd: Mr. Eide acknowledged there was a move by the
Greek Cypriot side and he also acknowledges there was a move by the Turkish
Cypriot side, but those moves were not sufficient to bring about a resumption
of the negotiations. So I think therefore, the question, which Mr. Eide will be
thinking on, is how to make further efforts to bring things back to the
negotiations table. I think it is very important in politics and in diplomacy
and in journalism to remember what it is you are trying to achieve when you
encounter daily problems. It is important to keep you eyes on what the
objective is and when you are pushed off track, to remember where it was you
were trying to go in the first place. It is very important to remind ourselves
what the process is and the process is about bringing the reunification of
Cyprus.
So you think the sides realize what we are
missing because of the lack of a solution?
Todd: I do feel having been here five months that
there is a desire genuinely on both sides to find a settlement. And I also feel
very strongly that maybe in the past, there was an assumption that “if nothing
happens, the status quo will continue.” In other words, people didn’t like the
status quo, but they were used to it and thought it is bearable. But I think
given the way the world is now, given where Cyprus is, given the neighbourhood,
especially to the East, Syria, Iraq, I don’t think anyone can assume that the
status quo will continue. I think that is something people should bear in mind
too. The benefits of unification of Cyprus for both sides are clear. So there
are strong positive reasons to move to a settlement, but there are also reasons,
which are about avoiding negatives.
Do you mean that Cyprus could fall into chaos
like its neighbours in the event of non-solution?
Todd: I wouldn’t go as far as raising threats of
violence. But you cannot assume that the bad things not many miles away would
not spread to Cyprus. There is a threat from terrorism all across Europe, and
no country can say its exempt from that.
Would a unified Cyprus be in a much better
position to stand strong in the face of terrorism?
Todd: I think in every sense a unified Cyprus would
be better able to deal with the challenges that Cyprus and Cypriots face, yes.
Is it even more important that there is solution
on the island now, taking into account the problems in the region?
Todd: I think with the present situation, the nature
of the world, not just the threats now, but the way the 21st century
is evolving the challenges, it is even more important to find a settlement now
than it was before. I think the choice facing Cypriots is not “Do you want the
status-quo to continue or do you want to take the risk of settlement?” It’s more,
“Do you want to take the risk of a settlement or take the risk of not having a
settlement?” I think it’s important to try and put the issue in those terms. We
encourage the two sides to return to structured negotiations because it is in
everybody’s interest. I would say that whether or not Cypriots or the others
interested in the Cyprus questions like it, the British have an agenda in
Cyprus and that agenda is not hidden. Our agenda is entirely open. We are
trying to bring a settlement to the Cyprus question. It is understood that a
settlement requires compromises. It’s easy to recognize there are conflicting
pressures on political leaders. But I think what is important is that the
international community is very interested in and supportive of a solution and
willing to do what it can for a settlement. But equally there is also a point
made in Security Council resolutions: “Finding a solution lies first and
foremost with the Cypriots themselves.”
As someone who is closely following the
developments, do you expect the resumptions of negotiations soon or will things
linger on until after April?
Todd: I think there are alternative scenarios. There
is a scenario where nothing can happen until April. However, I don’t accept and
to be honest, I don’t think Mr. Eide accepts either that the existence of
elections stops the process of negotiations. So, I don’t think we should accept
that nothing could happen in the immediate future. The need to find a
settlement is there.
From what I understand, besides trying to get
the sides resume negotiations, Mr. Eide is also working on how the negotiations
can move more speedily and effectively once started. Is that right?
Todd: Mr. Eide, since he started doing this work and
his team are working very hard on how exactly you take up the subjects on the
table. Therefore, the UN is ready to take forward with the parties the
negotiations, which is why it’s so important that they resume. As I said, my
strong sense is that there is a desire on both sides to find a settlement. The
way forward is set out in the joint declaration. It is actually then, a
question of moving to the give and take phase. It is understood that a
settlement requires compromises on both sides, but those compromises must be
balanced. The sides need to feel comfortable with the outcome. Therefore, once you
get to negotiations and find compromises for those most difficult issues, then
all the other issues will fall into place.
Do you think that the sides sincerely want a
solution?
Todd: In terms of the leadership and the people
responsible for the negotiations, there is - and we have to be honest about it
– a lack of trust across the island between the leaderships. That distrust
doesn’t help. And I often feel that the number of issues that are on the table,
security, property, territory, guarantees, hydrocarbons - whether it’s on the
table or floating above it doesn’t really matter - all of those issues are
actually proxies for a lack of trust.
How can we overcome this lack of trust? How
will the sides, who cannot trust each other for the simplest issues, jointly
govern a federation?
Todd: You are absolutely right. A settlement to the
Cyprus problem, when it is reached between the leaders with Mr. Eide’s help,
has to be passed by referendums on both sides. If they are both ‘yes,’ then
that is not the end of the Cyprus issue. It is the end of the chapter. And the
next one starts. In the words of Andreas Mavroyiannis, Cypriots will then walk
hand in hand into the future. So, this is one of the reasons why the UN
repeatedly calls on the two sides and their leaders to foster positive public
rhetoric and explain the benefits of a settlement. The UN is saying there is
responsibility on leaderships across the island, not only to work for a
settlement, but to help prepare the people for both referendum and the shared
future. That is very important. I come to Cyprus having spent many years doing
EU work. One of the fundamentals of how EU works is recognition that solidarity
is not something you take. If you give solidarity, you get it back. So people
are quite wrong to think that solidarity is something you take. No, it doesn’t
work that way. You give solidarity and you get it.
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